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Since 100% of your score in obtaining a firefighter badge is in the oral
board, what are you missing that's keeping you from gaining that badge?
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October 1, 2006
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In This Issue
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1. Quick Presentation Skills Tip
2. Entry Level Skills Tip
3. Robs Corner
4. Promotional Level Skills Tip
(Entry level should read this too)
5. New Badges
6. Humor
7. Resource Websites for Candidates
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1. Quick Presentation Skills Tip
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Captain Bob, I take an oral on Wednesday. I took this same agencies oral before
and the question that hung me up was about being a rookie at a "Old-timers"
station. You want to train, but they don’t what to. What do you do? I
answered, “I would ask them to train, and if they don’t I would go to the
supervisor and tell them what is going on and ask for a transfer.”
After watching your Conquer
the Job Interview DVD, I know my response was wrong.
Now I believe the correct way
to answer this since I believe it is about "getting along with others" is to ask
for some help from the guys, but not be pushy, this is their station, they have
been on for a long time, and I am new. I believe I will get any training they
feel I need on emergency scenes.
I am still working on it, but
could use an opinion. Please any guidance would be helpful
Eric
Reply: Yep. Understand you're
the rookie. They would eat you alive if you used your first answer in real
life.
If they won't train it's your
responsibility to train on your own and with other rookies to learn, keep your
hands on experience and be the best firefighter you can be under the
circumstances.
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2. Entry Level Skills Tip
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An Oral Board Question on Being a New Rookie
Capt.
Bob, Well my first oral board is over. I think I faired okay. Actually, I know I
faired much better since my coaching
http://www.eatstress.com/private%20coaching.htm than I would have had I
tried to go it alone. So THANK YOU for all of your time and insight. I stumbled
a couple of times in my answers, but I regained my composure and plowed ahead.
It went just like one of the examples that you gave me. They brought me in and
had me stand behind a table, gave me 10 minutes to hear four questions and give
my answers. At 10 minutes the interview was over no matter if I answered all
four questions or took them on a trip around the world with only one question. I
took just over eight minutes to listen to and answer all four. After that, it
was approximately seven minutes before they called in the next candidate,
because all of them were writing away on their note pads. I don't know if it was
good or bad, but I was the first one they interviewed in a two-day session. When
I walked in there were two of us, and by the time I was finished there were 40
people waiting their turn. They will be hiring 20 for an academy the first of
the year. The next step is the Chief's oral in two weeks, so we'll see if I get
an invite.
I do
have one question for you . . . I might have shot myself in the foot on this
one. You are a new firefighter and being assigned to your first station. The
crew you have been assigned to is a veteran crew and they are a very tight knit
crew. How are you going to integrate into this crew? And what steps are you
going to take to become a part of this crew?
I see
this job as no different than a roommate or marriage type situation. These are
people you live with as a result you need to make every effort possible to get
along and get to know one another. I would begin to form friendships and
relationships with the individuals of the crew. For example, I would try to
partner up with one of them to do my workout and get to know that individual on
a personal level. I would also assist a different member in the cooking duties
on a shift so I could get to know them on a more personal level. And at every
opportunity I would share personal information about myself so they could become
more comfortable with me as a person. I am committed to getting along with my
fellow crewmembers at any cost, because we are going to live together for the
remainder of our careers.
This was
one I hadn't thought too much about so I tossed something out there and hoped it
gained some traction somewhere. Thanks again for all you have done. Brian
Reply: Well, your got your feet
wet. You wrote:
And at
every opportunity I would share personal information about myself so they could
become more comfortable with me as a person. . . Start establishing a
relationship?
What?
Don't think so. They would eat you alive. Remember reading this in the Becoming
a Firefighter Book?
http://www.eatstress.com/firefighterbook.htm You're a snotty nose rookie.
Keep your mouth shut. Just be all ears and not mouth. Be cordial, friendly and
humble. You have no time or opinion until you earn it. You can't force it. That
will come with a lot of calls and a few fires. More on how to be a new rookie
here:
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Bottom line getting a badge is
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3. Robs Corner
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Doldrums?
The doldrums are a term used by sailors to describe a period without
wind. Along the equator during certain times of the year it is hot and there
can be little or no wind. The doldrums could trap a ship and its sailors for
weeks without a breath of wind. Stories abound telling of ships where the whole
crew went crazy and the ghost ship is still sailing the seas. Other ships would
use this time to make repairs, fix sails, paint and treat the wood, as well as
having fun swimming or just relaxing.
Testing can be an overwhelming lifestyle. A lot of departments seem to test
about the same time during the year. So all of a sudden you have all of the
tests you want to take and they are at the same time, or so close it is almost
impossible to prepare. On top of that there are all of the other things that go
on, you know life. You have to pay the bills, keep a job, and keep your grades
up, not to mention that person always telling you that you don’t spend enough
time with them. You just can’t wait for the day you get your first “four-day”.
But there are also times when the doldrums set in. No one is testing; things
are good at work and at home. You may have a break between classes. Things
posted last week are still on the front page of the Fire Careers web site.
That is the time for you to be repairing the sails. Those old ship captains
wouldn’t just get one set of sails ready, they wanted plenty of backup. The
area of the oceans where the doldrums happen is also where hurricanes
originate. Things could go from nothing to something big in a hurry.
So in your time that you aren’t stretched too thin, make sure you are at least
maintaining your testing abilities, if not improving them.
If you can pass the physical with no problem, get better. If you have some sort
of injury before your next test and are only up to 85%, you are sure going to
hope you were over prepared.
If you are doing well at the written tests, get better. A 94% is great, but if
you can find a department that weighs the written, or they only take the top 30
people, 96% might not be enough. Instead of the last minute cramming, do a page
a day, that way you can remember the stuff and it will be in your long-term
memory.
With oral interviews being a major part of your score, if not the whole ball of
wax, you need to get good at answering the questions. If you could see the
actors for a sitcom doing the first read through for that week’s episode you may
not recognize them. They are sounding out words, trying to follow the plot
while they read, and listen to the others do the same. But after they have the
time to memorize their lines, make them their own, and become familiar with them
they can have fun. Believe it or not you can have fun in an interview. When
you can go into an interview and know that you have well thought out,
well-rehearsed answers that you couldn’t forget if you wanted, then you can go
in and be you, not nervous guy #345. Being you in the interview is what gets
you the job.
Some ways to improve your skills are of course to have an answer put together
for those most asked questions, but also to practice the situational. Have
friends or family that will shoot questions at you out of the blue will help you
think on your feet. I have known a few ambulance crews that got hired about the
same time, because they spent all of that down time working on their oral
skills.
Imagine going into you next test and knowing you are so over prepared for the
written, and the physical, and when the oral interview comes you feel like a kid
on Christmas. This is a huge task if you test is this month, but if you do a
little each day, imagine how prepared you would be come November.
Don’t think I am saying not to enjoy the down time. Recharging the batteries is
very important for your health and wellbeing. I want you to be able to stop and
smell the roses, but wouldn’t it be nice if they were growing in the yard of the
house you just bought?
Where ever you might be stuck in the hiring process from the written or video
testing, physical agility CPAT, oral interview, psych interview, background,
polygraph, or medical, you can find new powerful information on Captain Rob’s
new web site here:
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CAPTAIN ROB (Thank
you)
NRTC@SONIC.NET
http://www.myfireinerview.com
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4. Promotional Level Skills Tip
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Promotional Preparation
The following are possible
questions you might encounter in your promotional process:
What have you done to prepare
for or what do you think qualifies you for the position?
Everything you will do in the
promotional process has to do with presentation skills.
What is your five your plan?
What are three of your
strengths? What is one of your weaknesses?
What projects can you attach
your name to?
How do you resolve conflict?
How do you reduce stress?
How would you handle a
disgruntled employee?
What is the job of an officer?
Be prepared for scenarios
related to ethical issues; drinking, drugs, stealing, etc.
How would you handle a sexual
or racial harassment situation?
Why would we choose you over
the other candidates?
Can you deliver a 5-10 oral
resume?
Are you up on those issues that
are affecting your agency?
Practice handwriting reports.
Work on your personal signature
stories than can relate to possible questions.
What does customer service mean
to you?
What does cultural diversity
mean to you?
Can you take a topic on short
notice, develop and deliver a 10-minute speech?
How do you administer
discipline?
Do you have a current one-page
resume? Make sure to include any acting time.
Practice, practice, practice
your answers with a tape recorder!
Don’t go on a journey with your
answers. Be concise but brief.
The majority of candidates I
coach for the fire tactical are not ready! Get coaching!
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5. New Badges
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Rob, Just wanted to let you know I came out #1
after the interview. I GOT THE CALL!! They interviewed 15 and are hiring 2,.
Now I'm just waiting on results of my Paramedic exam to say for sure I'm
hired. It's a condition of the job. Hire date is looking like the end of
November. So cross your fingers that I passed my Medic written, then I'm on
board. Thanks for all of your help along the way.
Jami
I just had to share the good news that after 5+ years, my husband received a
conditional offer from this past Friday. I just want to encourage everyone that
is trying, to keep trying. It will happen.
Thanks to Captain Bob's program and for Captain Rob's coaching, my husband
finally got a job offer with a department that he has tested with a total of 6
times (just for this one department). It really helped Dan get his interview's
going in the right direction and landing an offer with a department that he
actually applied with a total of 6 times. My husband and I both feel that what
really turned things around for him was getting private coaching with Capt.
Rob. Thanks Rob!
Keep trying!
Cap, All I can say is "thank
you", I am 39 years old and have been trying to get on the job for over 4
years. I finally got the call this year. I accepted the job and am so very
happy. Your CD was a great help it gave me that advantage that the other
candidates did not have. I am now reviewing your info on what a new recruit
needs to do, it has saved me a few times.
Thanks,
Dominic
P.S. I was hired in June, in
August I got another offer from a different dept. I am staying with my
department here. I went 4 years without anything now with your CD I get 2
offers in less then 6 months and made it to the top 10 on 2 other lists!!!! If
you use this testimony please remove my name.
Captain Rob, I just wanted to
thank you for your help with my interview skills. I am more
excited for interviews now, rather then dreading them. I just completed
probation a few months ago in Southern Ca. It is a small department, so I have
decided to start looking for a department that has more opportunities. Thanks,
Chris
There was a moment when this
whole thing looked bleak. Then..............it happened.
Capt.
Bob Smith, For 6 long years I have been in pursuit of
this career. I have done training, education, the whole 9 yards. I have been
paid-call for 6 years. I have sent many apps out and taken many tests. I finally
decided to start my medic program.
Then I purchased your conquer
the job interview Gold Package Program
http://www.eatstress.com/goldpackage.htm
I learned a lot from it, I might add. I used these "nuggets" on my last two
interviews. One, I wasn't sure where I stood on the list. The other, I knew I
was number 10.
There was a moment when this
whole thing looked bleak. Then..............it happened. While I was at work at
my full-time garage job, my phone rang. It was a fire chief that I had tested
for last year. He said he was updating the hiring list and wanted to know if I
was still interested in the job. I replied yes. He asked a few more questions
and then we hung up. No job offer.
Four days
later................he calls again. Wants to know if I am still interested.
Again I replied yes. This time there was a job offer. Human resources was
drawing up my papers and he was doing my background check. I am very honored and
proud to say that I start my job in a very recognizable city in South Carolina
in four and a half weeks.
I owe it all to you and your
program. I thank you so much, and so does my wife and my 9-month-old future
firefighter. Thank you again Captain Bob. Sincerely, Jason
Ah, yea, this keeps the passion
alive.
Another success story, I
started a couple of months ago – 600 applicants and I am one of six now on the
job. Thanks – I have recommended your website and
products to others still in the running in my area. Jack
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6. Humor
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The Excuse Board used at CPAT.
Actual excuses used by applicants ( We don't make this stuff up). All of these
were used by the applicants after they failed the test.
I didn't know I was on a clock
I didn't eat
I ate too much
I ate at Taco Bell
I worked last night
I didn't make it to any of the open or formal practice sessions
The vest is too heavy (the vests all weigh 50 lbs)
The proctor slowed me down
I am not a "Morning Person"
I am not an "Afternoon person"
The course is confusing
I have allergies
I worked out this morning
The ladder was under control (while lowering the rope, he let go)
I am Sick
I got Asthma
My feet are too big (for the stepmill)
If I could just use my own gloves
I think you changed the course
If you could speed up the stepmill, I wouldn't stumble so much
I am only 5 minutes late (for his test)
I had the wrong vest size
I was out of the country
I was stopped by a train (same guy)
I was stopped by a cop
I got a ticket
I ran the mini marathon
I got the same cramp as I had in the mini marathon
I have a bad knee
I have water on the knee
I couldn't get a grip on it
I didn't want to burn out
I didn't know where to go on the course
I had the flu, last week
I need bigger steps (stepmill)
I didn't want to get dirty
I didn't train because the video made it look so easy
I didn't get any sleep last night
I didn't lean on the rails that much (stepmill)
I got lost in the maze
I made it through before (years ago)
I have a pinched nerve in my toe
I was a marine. I can do this. I've done 25 mile humps before ( failed
Miserably)
I got a cramp
I feel through a roof (while roofing)
I stepped on a nail
Questions asked:
How long will this take? I have an appointment to make
Do I get a break for my age? (34)
Can you hold my inhaler?
Can I carry Gatorade with me?
What’s the course record ? (Did not get off the stepmill)
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